Alright I’ll admit when I’ve got it wrong, I’m looking at the price and I remember the base ally at £600-700, forgot the extreme and all that stuff at 900.

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Dude come on why are you making me be so prescriptive? Stop looking for holes and try to infer meaning/understand what I am actually saying. This isn’t a formal debate, you don’t need to score points. We are trying to reach mutual understanding.

Yes it matters in the grand sense of things. I care about the state of the industry and gaming.

It does not matter re: the subject I am talking about, i.e. whether or not the steamdeck is getting older/its AAA capabilities. I am talking about realties, you are trying to make this a discussion about values and developers. This is an assessment of the steamdeck as hardware.

It doesn’t matter whose fault it is. It’s not about assigning blame.

The DS had countless iterations and refreshes. The Switch was Nintendo’s flagship product. I also never said the steamdeck was useless or done. You know I didn’t, yet you pretend like I’m treating it as if its practically e-waste. I was very specific/nuanced in how I talked about it. I don’t know why this is such an important hill for you to die on but I think I’m being more than fair to the deck.

If I didn’t think I could find good use for the steam deck for at least 5+ years then I wouldn’t have bought one. But like the Xbox Series S it is starting to show some age on more demanding titles. It is just reality, and for many people that’s not really a big deal. But for some it is.

The steamdeck has matured and because of its architecture there is no meaningful upgrade or change you can do to it yourself besides storage.

Valve has made it very clear they have no plans to release another one, the OLED was their final refresh of the design. Their focus in that arena is on bringing steamOS to different platforms, perhaps another round of Steam machines, but they have explicitly said they are not taking another crack at mobile hardware right now.

I get you are excited about the steamdeck, I love mine as well. But they have been abundantly clear on this matter. No speculation required

And how long do you think a $300-$400 handheld PC is supposed to stay on the cutting edge?

You can already see its ability to play AAA games slipping. It’s an incredibly impressive machine but the days of BG3/cyberpunk/etc. dropping on it and being solid experiences are wrapping up. I’m sure it has several years of viability in store but come on.

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Sounds about right

There is no way they are charging €900 for this. That’s absurd. If you’re right I’ll come back and praise you lol

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I mean conservative estimates have over 20 million people using game pass and the steam deck is getting long in the tooth technology wise - valve has also made it very clear there are no plans to release a new one any time soon, if ever.

Also, Ilove my steam deck so much, but it is not the most user-friendly for newbies sometimes. You have to be comfortable troubleshooting occasionally, especially if you ever plan on using desktop mode. Which is not required of course, but you are leaving a lot of the appeal of the device in the first place on the table if you don’t use that ever.

I fucking hate Microsoft, I am over the Xbox ecosystem, but ultimately this will be a very pick up and play device. It will likely sell at least half decently (likely underperform their estimates as always). I think anybody saying it’s doomed to fail however is honestly not up to date on the current state of gaming.

If I had to ignorantly shoot from the hip, I would say they will probably sell ~500,000-1mill units

It’s not “mobile gaming” it’s more “handheld pc gaming.” I get it sounds pedantic but “mobile games” and “mobile gaming” for 99% of people means games released for smartphones.

A steamdeck isn’t a mobile gaming device. This is a steamdeck competitor.

Yeah that’s exactly what I took from the above comment as well.

I have a pretty simple bar: until we’re debating the ethics of turning it off or otherwise giving it rights, it isn’t intelligent. No it’s not scientific, but it’s a hell of a lot more consistent than what all the AI evangelists espouse. And frankly if we’re talking about the ethics of how to treat something we consider intelligent, we have to go beyond pure scientific benchmarks anyway. It becomes a philosophy/ethics discussion.

Like crypto it has become a pseudo religion. Challenges to dogma and orthodoxy are shouted down, the non-believers are not welcome to critique it.

I mean they aren’t lying. I see your comment history, you do spam them. I see like three or four of them on aboringdystopia. Looks like you literally repost the same articles over and over throughout your history.

I’m just saying if they’ve got a problem then they should alert mods/admins and point to the actual cases.

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nah just fall somewhere in between.

Frankly 95% of shows rush at the end and 1% stick the landing

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Way too much to explain, you should just look it up. Make sure to search “that’s trauma!”

The short version: it was tone deaf livestream meme bait