From my brief lecture of the underlying protocol, public instances could exist and federate, it’s only that they become quite expensive to run if done right.
Federation with bluesky is just that technically theoretical. Creating a protocol that allows for federation is not enough
Stimulating others to federate by making it virtually impossible without only billions in the bank for zero profit sounds great 🤡.
It smells of green federate washing. A way to point legislators/ populous that bluesky is different, really, I swear, trust me bro 🤡 .
Instead of writing white papers Lemmy/Mbin/GoToSocial/jackal started with writing detailed documentation in how to run your own. In the scope of reality (not theory) 🤡
I’m not even going to pretend that BlueSky is more open than any Fediverse tool designed with federation in mind from the ground up. BlueSky is certainly not Mastodon or Lemmy, but it’s not Meta AI-pushing crap like WhatsApp either.
Let’s do a thought experiment. What if we would get a Wikipedia like NGO with proper funding setting up a EU based BlueSky instance? It won’t be the decentralized dream of Fediverse, perhaps, but it could still prove useful. I think Twitter was successful because of its unified, global reaching platform appeal, not in spite of it, and the fact that users flock to BlueSky tells me that appeal is still there. Having a bit more decentralization in that mix just makes it better, but Mastodon shows that decentralization is not sufficient to give a platform a wide appeal.
As context: I’m one of those people that donates annually to Wikipedia, but I have no interest or capacity in managing a decentralized federation server in my basement. Lots of kudos to the people that do!
It makes sense that they would go where the users are.
But not having a separate, European instance federated into the BlueSky network, that’s the real wtf.
What if I told you Bluesky federates just as well as WhatsApp does with XMPP.
Surely that’s a bit unfair to BlueSky.
From my brief lecture of the underlying protocol, public instances could exist and federate, it’s only that they become quite expensive to run if done right.
https://bsky.social/about/blog/02-22-2024-open-social-web
Federation with bluesky is just that technically theoretical. Creating a protocol that allows for federation is not enough
Stimulating others to federate by making it virtually impossible without only billions in the bank for zero profit sounds great 🤡.
It smells of
greenfederate washing. A way to point legislators/ populous that bluesky is different, really, I swear, trust me bro 🤡 .Instead of writing white papers Lemmy/Mbin/GoToSocial/jackal started with writing detailed documentation in how to run your own. In the scope of reality (not theory) 🤡
I’m not even going to pretend that BlueSky is more open than any Fediverse tool designed with federation in mind from the ground up. BlueSky is certainly not Mastodon or Lemmy, but it’s not Meta AI-pushing crap like WhatsApp either.
Let’s do a thought experiment. What if we would get a Wikipedia like NGO with proper funding setting up a EU based BlueSky instance? It won’t be the decentralized dream of Fediverse, perhaps, but it could still prove useful. I think Twitter was successful because of its unified, global reaching platform appeal, not in spite of it, and the fact that users flock to BlueSky tells me that appeal is still there. Having a bit more decentralization in that mix just makes it better, but Mastodon shows that decentralization is not sufficient to give a platform a wide appeal.
As context: I’m one of those people that donates annually to Wikipedia, but I have no interest or capacity in managing a decentralized federation server in my basement. Lots of kudos to the people that do!
I remember 2009
The future of technology was bright
https://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/110/
https://gmail.googleblog.com/2008/11/say-hello-to-gmail-voice-and-video-chat.html?m=1
Instead of selling competing protocols, companies and non profits came together to talk together… so that we could too.
Honestly I’d be a lot less negative of bluesky if it added native ActivityPub.
XMPP was added back in the day to W3 internet standard, as ActivityPub has.