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  • The US should have been part of the League of Nations. It was cowardly not to have been.

    Maybe they should, Wilson certainly wanted

    them to. Whether it was “cowardly” is entirely opinion based.

    The US did not join the League of Nations primarily due to strong opposition within the Senate and a prevailing isolationist sentiment in the country. Concerns about the League’s potential impact on US sovereignty and the entangling of the US in foreign conflicts, particularly in Europe, fueled this opposition.

    If it were moral for England and France to enter into war, then why would it not moral for the US?

    Looking back at it now or in 1939? I’m not arguing morality because that’s the problem. Knowing what the world knows today it’s easy to say it was moral to declare war, but if the Allies were looking for help at the start of the war, why did they not share information about the concentration camps to spur others into action? Maybe because nobody knew in the beginning?

    Taking a 1939 perspective? I would say that if the prevailing sentiment among Americans was isolationism, is it not moral for the elected representatives to work in the interests of their constituency.

    We’re talking about people in a country half a world away, that is only a few years removed from the Great Depression, with the memory of fighting another war in Europe fresh in their memories.

    Remember, in the 1930s people in the US had virtually no televisions or 24/7 tv news, only about 1/3 of homes had telephones. The world is very different now than it was 90 years ago.

    Your opinion might be that the US “sat and watched for 820 days” but that’s rubbish. It’s not supported by the facts or history.

    An American could have the opinion that WWII occurred because Neville Chamberlain, the UK, France and the rest of the League failed to appropriately address the threat prior to 1939. Guess what? The facts and history don’t bear that out either.



  • That explains the UK and France since France and the United Kingdom were the two dominant players in world affairs and in League of Nations affairs, and usually were in agreement.

    However, the US was not part of the League of Nations, had not been attacked, had adopted an isolationist approach to foreign policy between WW1 and WW2 and had already fought in one European war. There was no UN, no NATO, no mutual defense agreements like exist today because WW2 was the catalyst for many of those things.

    “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.” – attributed to Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto






  • It’s plenty articulate but wrong on both accounts. It’s hypocrisy to criticize (wrongly in OPs case) the US for not involving themselves fast enough in one breath and then criticize the US for being “world police” in the next.

    Especially considering what the landscape might have looked like had the US remained on its isolationist track and not joined the war.

    As for articulating why, with what they knew in 1939, the US should have declared war; you typed a lot but failed at the task. You say fascism like it carried the weight in 1939 that it does today. Fascism rose to prominence in early-20th-century Europe. Hmm, wonder who that was.

    Swing and a miss!


  • More false information. Let’s see who entered WWII at, or after December, 1941.

    • Phillipines
    • China
    • Guatemala
    • Haiti
    • Dominican Republic
    • Honduras
    • Cuba
    • El Salvador
    • Costo Rica
    • Brazil
    • Bolivia
    • Mexico

    Sure looks like most of the western hemisphere didn’t join until after the war came to their part of the world.

    I wonder who remained neutral?

    • Turkey
    • Spain
    • Afghanistan
    • Argentina
    • Yemen
    • Saudi Arabia
    • Sweden
    • Portugal
    • Switzerlamd
    • Ireland
    • Uriguay
    • Lithuania
    • Latvia
    • Estonia
    • Bhutan
    • Iceland
    • Andorra
    • Liechtenstein
    • Monaco
    • San Marino
    • Vatican City

    Any other lies you’d like to tell?




  • Not true at all. You should maybe crack a history book.

    Post-WWI the US people wanted to be less involved in world affairs. Congress prevented the country from joining the League of Nations.

    Then when WWII broke out I’d imagine there was not a lot of stomach for it. You know, since they had just been involved in a similar war a little over 2 decades before.

    To say they did nothing shows your ignorance. Before officially entering the war, the US provided substantial aid to the Allied powers, particularly Great Britain.

    Why should the US, in 1939, have declared war?