As much as I hate dealing with their shenanigans, I can’t really blame them either. As long as I can get away with using an adblocker, I will - but honestly, YouTube gives me more value for free than a lot of services I actually pay for. I have no moral argument for why YouTube should let me watch videos for free, even though I like free stuff just as much as the next guy.

I heard it from independent analytic, not from Israel.

The population in Iran - especially in the big cities - would likely be ready for a regime change as well. I read somewhere that Israel has been trying to avoid targeting Iran’s military directly, instead focusing on the security forces, probably in the hope of pushing them to turn on the government.

Joe’s the first to admit he’s an uneducated idiot - he’s a comic and a cage fight commentator. He’s had plenty of journalists as guests on his podcast, as have other podcasts like his.

Which disinformation are you refering to exactly?

EDIT: If someone else is interested in discussing what exactly the issue with Joe is, I’d like to hear your perspective. I don’t consider myself a fan, but I’ve listened to him quite a bit - especially in the past. I don’t recognize him in much of the hate I see online, though I do acknowledge that some of the criticism is valid.

It’s kind of wild how just seeing Joe Rogan’s name in a headline can trigger a full meltdown like this. If you’d actually read the article, you’d know it wasn’t really about him - it was about the broader shift toward podcasts and social media as news sources.

It is the source most Americans get their news from wether it’s technically a news source in itself.

Seems like I’m not in the target audience for these ads. I have absolutely zero clue what any of the things mentioned above are. I use WhatsApp to send messages.

I have a tendency to present my views in a provocative way, so I don’t exactly fault people for misreading me or my intentions.

that there is any celebration of vigilantism at all?

Pretty much, yeah. I think violence should, for the most part, only ever be a response to immediate violence - not a tool for political or ideological expression. I believe in due process, reason, and honest discourse as the means to influence those we oppose - not bullets, or even fists. So when people cheer for acts of vigilante violence, even against those they despise, I see that as both morally bankrupt and strategically self-defeating. It undermines the claim to the moral high ground and reinforces the very hostility many claim to oppose. We should hold ourselves to the same standards as we do others.

is that correct?

Mostly yeah.

It’s not unclear to me why people feel differently toward the victims - what I’m pointing out is the inconsistency in how people react to vigilante violence itself. I’m not asking anyone to mourn a murdered healthcare CEO - though I do question the celebration of it. And likewise, I feel sympathy for the recently murdered politicians.

What I’m criticizing is the double standard in how the shooters are treated.

And it’s not really about political leanings specifically, even if there’s overlap. It’s more about the broader “us vs. them” mentality - where people’s moral judgment flips depending on which side they perceive someone to be on.

I’m more than happy to elaborate on any of my unpopular opinions that you view as trolling. I’m very much sharing my honest views here.

Sure, let’s go. But if your argument is as strong as you seem to think it is, you shouldn’t need to wrap it in this condescension and chest-thumping. I’m always open for an debate - but if the tone stays at “let me enlighten your dumb little mind,” I’ll check out rather quick. I’m here to discuss ideas, not trade insults.

Now, I’ll be the first to admit my original comment was intentionally provocative but I stand by the underlying point: I oppose vigilante violence across the board, regardless of who the target is. And if someone cheered for Luigi’s killing but condemns this one, I think that’s morally inconsistent. That’s what I was calling out - a double standard that, to me atleast, reeks of tribalism more than principle.

It gives me value - unlike the smug, unsolicited moral judgement of a stranger.

Depending on what definition you use, chatGPT could be considered to be intelligent.

• The ability to acquire, understand, and use knowledge.
• The ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations.
• The ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one’s environment or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria (such as tests).
• The act of understanding.
• The ability to learn, understand, and make judgments or have opinions that are based on reason.
• It can be described as the ability to perceive or infer information; and to retain it as knowledge to be applied to adaptive behaviors within an environment or context.

I don’t like that part about it either but instead of stopping using it, I simply told it to stop acting that way.

It’s not a place for incivility that I’m making, either. I just struggle to believe you genuinely don’t understand what people mean when they ask for less moderation or censorship.

Now vigilante murder is bad when the victim is “one of us,” but when it was “one of them,” it was all cheers and applause.

Nobody is asking for an unmoderated space.

“Your claim is only valid if you first run this elaborate, long-term experiment that I came up with.”

The world isn’t binary. When someone says less moderation, they don’t mean no moderation. Framing it as all-or-nothing just misrepresents their view to make it easier for you to argue against. CSAM is illegal, so it’s always going to be against the rules - that’s not up to Google and is therefore a moot point.

As for other content you ideologically oppose, that’s your issue. As long as it’s not advocating violence or breaking the law, I don’t see why they’d be obligated to remove it. You’re free to think they should - but it’s their platform, not yours. If they want to allow that kind of content, they’re allowed to. If you don’t like it, don’t go there.

You don’t get notified if the channel owner deletes your comment.