You should be more passionate in opposing them because this shit is the closest we’ve ever been to WW3 and Israel only seems interested in further escalation.

We’ve been far closer to WWIII in the past.

Iran is not (enough of) a Russian ally.

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Gee, I wonder why that is. It couldn’t be that Israel doesn’t give a shit about equal rights, being a fascist ethnostate themselves, surely. This isn’t a “both sides” situation, Israel is clearly the aggressor, and no good can possibly come from this.

Iran has been helping Israel’s enemies—Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Assad gang—and chanting “Death to Israel” (and “Death to America”) for decades. When it comes to needlessly killing Arabs, I’m not sure who’s worse: US or Iran.

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It’s interesting that your instinct is to assume some level of good faith on Israel’s part.

I don’t really: at least not these past several years.

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Perhaps you should examine that?

Perhaps I should.

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The standard of violence is set by the oppressor. It’s a clear double standard that you speak charitably about Israel’s attacks on civilians immediately before dismissing others for theirs.

2 wrongs don’t make a right.

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Not to mention the massive difference in scale.

You might have an argument there: the legitimate-targets-to-innocent-civilian ratio of Hamas on 7 October 2023 versus Israel’s response.

For the record, I don’t really support these strikes, but neither am I terribly passionate in opposing them for reasons I’ve stated.

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If Iran’s mode of government were really the casus belli of Israel’s attacks, they would be providing support for revolutionary movements within Iran,

I wouldn’t be too surprised if the US and Israel were doing a little of such, though the contributions would hardly be significant.

wp:International Railroad for Queer Refugees doesn’t seem to be getting much support from Israel.

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not bombing their capital city including civilian apartment buildings and claiming that they’re only targeting nuclear sites.

Such places might have stuff and people of interest, but yeah, they’ve been saying that a lot about their targets in Gaza.

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If having a government that denies equal rights to certain groups is justification enough for attacks on civilian populations in the capital, think about what that means for Tel Aviv.

and if Hamas, Islamic Jihad, et al narrowed their attacks to just soldiers, cops, many of the politicians, and settlers, I wouldn’t have much of a problem with it.

no support :'(

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/melania-meme/historical_data?start=2025-01-01&end=2025-06-13

and was the data in your ride(s) used in this study?

even better.

Again Israel is the aggressor like Nazi Germany. Iran and Palestine in this case are the allies not Israel. Before you use the democracy argument i will tell you that many autocratic countries was with the allies

Germany was at least a semi-functioning democracy before 1933. Germans suffered neither a Holocaust, nor did they suffer an existential threat. The countries Germany invaded were also at least a semi-functioning democracies as well as that existed for decades, if not centuries. Arguably the Sudetenlander had it better under Czech rule that Nazi-rule. Nazi Germany got its ass handed to them by the allies, and at least 60% of it not only were the better for it. since then, Germany has had decades of unprecedented peace and prosperity.

Palestine was what? Ruled by the British, and before that the Turks, and before that some Arab Caliph? Jews suffered a Holocaust and presumably nobody wanted them: not Europe, not Canada and US, despite having millions of sq km of land stolen from the indigenous, and perhaps neither Asians nor Arabs. Israel’s neighbours aren’t and weren’t democracies. Jews were at best 2nd classed citizens in those countries. Today Israel is at least a semi-functioning democracy. 20% of its population are Arab-speakers.

Israel is an aggressor, but it’s far from being like the Nazis.

As for the Allies, yes, the USSR was bad. It’s why many post-Soviet countries, particularly Ukraine, never want to be under Kremlin rule again.

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I don’t talk about Gandhi . I talk about people like Nana Sahib

Around 120–200 women and children were then taken captive and confined in a villa called Bibighar. As British forces approached to retake the city, Nana Sahib and his advisors—reportedly in retaliation for British actions against Indians—ordered the execution of the captives.

So he was a mass murderer. nice.

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I urge MAGAts and other alt-right riff-raff to invest as much as possible in $Trump, because in, say, 12 months, after Trump’s great success with deportations, tariffs, and bullying other countries, as well as his continued uncritical support for Israel, his popularity rating will be like over 90%, and you could sell at 10x the profit!!

Yes but you was comparing israel with the allies .

in regards to shooting Hamas punks and active supporters of the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran.

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Don’t tell any person in occupied land not to fight a war that they didn’t chose to but was forced among them

I don’t and wouldn’t.

You would tell the same thing to Indian, Tunisian, Algerian etc?

Again, no, but wasn’t Gandhi a pacifist?

You would tell Nat turner to not oppose slave owners?

no. However, FWIW:

wp:Nat Turner’s Rebellion

The rebels killed White people without discriminating by age or sex.[16][17] Turner’s slaveowner and his family were the first to be killed. The rebels then traveled from house to house, freeing slaves and killing Whites.[15] Historian Stephen B. Oates writes that Turner called on his group to “kill all the white people”.[18]

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According to the Richmond Enquirer, “Turner declared that ‘indiscriminate slaughter was not their intention after they attained a foothold, and was resorted to in the first instance to strike terror and alarm.’”[19] A few homes were spared “because Turner believed the poor White inhabitants ‘thought no better of themselves than they did of negroes.’”[18] The rebels also avoided the Giles Reese plantation, even though it was en route, likely because Turner wanted to keep his wife and children safe.[20] Turner confessed to killing only one person, Margaret Whitehead, whom he killed with a blow from a fence post.[15] The last house to be attacked was the Rebecca Vaughan House.

DeSantis has a tip for those whose cars are surrounded in a threatening manner.

Of course it wasn’t a genocide: many Germans had blond hair, blue eyes, and fine Aryan features. I’m sure many Allied soldiers were a little sad about killing those handsome young men and beautiful Christian women.

Gaza is different. The victims have darker complexions, speak incomprehensibly, and many are Mohammatens. Talk of genocide is less verboten.

That’s probably one reason why the Allies, particularly 70-80 years ago, didn’t talk as much about genociding the Germans compared to what Israel is doing to Gaza.

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In either case, if you want never to (greatly) risk harming or killing an innocent civilian, then you should probably participate in neither war nor armed struggle.

Indeed, though Mosaddegh lived over 70 years ago and I’ve read nothing bad about him on that issue, so I’ll give him a pass for now.

I don’t support that.

No you don’t.

Yeah. You’re right. I don’t—again, I don’t support that.

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Even civilians that support the regime do not deserve to die. Your morality is terrible

They don’t.

When you are involved in armed struggle, you don’t want to hurt the innocents.

When the Allies where shelling the shit out of Berlin in 1945, it’s possible that a few hoped for no civilian casualties.

How do you agree that Israel is a genocidal state when you justify them committing even more crimes in Iran

When Israel pops off some Hamas punk, generally many civilians also suffer; and that’s in addition to the wanton injury, death, and destruction that they are inflicting on the Gazans (as well as those in the West Bank and Golan). However, if some military or quasi-military supporter of the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran gets blown to bits, and the lady civilian who serves him tea also dies, the latter is tragic, but some might accept it as an acceptable loss. May Allāh regard her with favour.

Is this 71 million miles during daylight hours, on bright sunny days, on quiet roads, at ≤20 mph?

Some Kurds might differ from you.

Ditto some women who think that they are entitled to the same rights as menfolk have, as well as the LGBTQI2Ss.

What comment?

Do you support what Russia is doing in Ukraine?

No I don’t unlike you supporting the terrorist state occupation Palestinians for 57 years

I don’t support that.

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Do you support the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran’s sexism and homophobia?

No , i support Iranians themselves deal with the regime . I don’t support killing Iranians under the pretext of helping democracy

What if some of the dead Iranians actively supported the repression by the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran and/or the Reactionary Guards?

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So why grieve when some mullarch or Reactionary Guard leader bites the dust?

Because the terrorist state of Israel is a genocidal state currently committing a genocide

agreed.

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like to kill the most number of civilians

FWIW,

wp:June 2025 Israeli strikes on Iran

17:56, 13 June 2025

Per Iran:

78+ killed (unofficial numbers)[1][2]

329+ injured[3][4]

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Europe was for the most part an antisemitic genocidal shit-hole for Jews before they were arguably dumped in Palestine where they could at least be safe; and the USSR was the first country to recognize Israel.

You are so stupid to think that enforcing a state on local people would make jew safe anywhere that have nothing to do with the holocaust .

IIUC, Jews in Palestine survived better between 1933 to 1945 than in Europe.

Besides, the British and Turks enforced a state on Palestine before there was a modern Israel.

After Nazism was defeated jews was going to live safe where they was.

IIUC, mostly in Communist countries or in Germany where Hitler killed himself only 3 years and a few weeks earlier—I wouldn’t fault Jews for thinking that Germany was safe back then—would you?

Israel and Iran.

I think some resistance can be genocidal.

Prove it.